Well, I've been seeing more and more threads about Zeitgeist. I've also seen far too many threads about 9/11 being planned. And every single time, the CT (conspiracy theorist) uses it as their source. Sadly, they usually resort to hiding behind it as if it were some shield, so I watched it, and put together this little thing so maybe I can help put the theories to rest.
NOTE: I originally wrote this for a 9/11 "Truth" thread, but it got deleted. Not wanting it to go to waste, I got the idea to make this.

At 2/22/08 08:02 PM, isuckblood wrote:
: Zeitgeist

Oh hell, not this one. Well, this is going to take awhile, as it is a half-hour video, with many points, and I'm doing it by memory, so if I miss anything, just let me know, so I can take care of it as well.

NO WARNINGS: Well, Zeitgeist was extremely vague with this, giving headlines of newspaper articles and not much else besides the FEMA response manual, so there's not much I can say (that doesn't mean I'm automatically wrong though) except for my main rule of thumb with this kind of thing: The government would need to keep this a huge secret for obvious reasons, so why would they make all of this available to the public?
EDIT: Another thing I forgot to mention was that this contradicts the entire arguement. We got warned about something we planned?

SOME HIJACKERS ARE STILL ALIVE: Actually, most of these are just cases of mistaken identity, not all Arab names are different; there are, of course, common ones. Anyway, 15 of the 19 hijackers were notified in this article here. This should also help: Link

A PASSPORT WAS PLANTED: Well, if you're going to complain about a passport, why not a seat cushion or life vest? Link to the picture. Sorry, for some reason it wouldn't let me just copy the picture. Here's another one too.

THE BIN LADEN VIDEO WAS A FAKE: Well, usually in a conspiracy theory this picture is used. (see bottom of post) But this is mainly because of the low quality, and converting picture types. To give another example, attached to the Bin Laden picture (bloody one picture limit, and I didn't want to double post) is a comparison of Dylan Avery (he made Loose Change) notice all the differences in the two, the chin, eyes, mouth, etc. they show he cannot be the same person... Right? Additionally, another common sense question is, If this was supposed to be a fake, why in God's name would they hire someone with the complete opposite, well, everything?

A PLANE DID NOT HIT THE PENTAGON: Alright, there are multiple things about this, so here goes
Lack of a plane: Well, Zeitgeist did not give a theory for what actually did hit it, but the common theory is a missle. Well, the hole is like I said, a triangle. Missles are designed to puncture then explode, not the other way around, so that is false. Also, where did the flight and its passengers go? Hammerspace?
Hani Hanjour couldn't even fly a plane: Yes, he could, he couldn't land though. He didn't need to. Also, some say the flight manuvers were too hard for him. This man doesn't agree. Lastly, here's a simulation for the route he took.
The FBI confiscated tapes recording the impact, and refused to give them back: The law says not to. Here are a bunch of sources, read up if you want.
1 2 3 4 5
There is no trace of Flight 77:
Yes there is. Here too.

THE PLANE THAT "CRASHED" AT SHANKSVILLE WAS NOT THERE: More links comin' at ya' 1 2 3

ASSORTED WTC ARGUEMENTS: Hoo boy, I'll have to let engineers and other experts do the talking for me on this one.
The WTC's can withstand that impact: Aah, speeds matter friend.
Molten metal even though the fires couldn't melt steel: Linky Another one And for the molten metal.
Bombs brought down the buildings and pulverised the concrete: Not exactly. Here's an interview with a firefighter. And no demolition experts agree. Another link. ... And another... ... And another!
WTC 7 arguments: Well, first off, the reason it wasn't mentioned in the Commission Report is because it was made to talk about the terrorists hitting WTC's 1 and 2, not any collateral damage. As usual, linky,
another,
and another,,
and one final one.
The WTC's shouldn't have collapsed like that: Well, actually... ... I guess you could say... ... That's not true.
The Towers fell at free fall speeds: Not really...

MULTIPLE NORAD ARGUEMENTS: One link for them all. (It's 16 pages.) This covers the "wargames" as well.

THE 911 COMMISSION WAS UNDER BUSH/CHENEY TERMS: Well, I don't have any links because there was no recording, transcripting, or the like, but what I believe is that secret information that can't be broadcast was said, so nothing could be recorded. It's a thought.

THE GOVERNMENT IS BRAINWASHING YOU WITH THE "TERROR" THING: Well, first, if we can assume they have control of the media, why is there so much anti-war stuff floating around and so little pro-war? Also, this argument is largely based on emotion, so I can't really disprove and they can't prove. (I'm assuming I'm right about 9/11 not being planned)
BLAH END